Queries 171

Queries 171 - 180

Latest Update: 9 February 2008

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Pregunta 180 - 21 February 2004

Hi. I am a descendent of the Lugo family and have been told that I am linked somehow to Don Antonio Maria Lugo, son of Francisco Salvador Lugo, a Lugo to settle in California. I am a registered Juaneño Indian on my mother's side (Lugo) of the family, her father, but am told that there is also Cahuilla Indian blood as well. I also have additional Juaneño blood on my grandmother's side (my mother's mother). I have been researching and researching and researching, and still have not been able to put the puzzle completely together. Here's what I have. My mother's father's name is Frank (Frances) James Lugo (he had 7 children, including my mother). His father's name is also Frances James Lugo and his father's name is Blas Antonio Lugo or Antonio Blas Lugo. My mother believes that Blas was the son of Vicente Lugo, who is one of Don Antonio Maria Lugo's sons. But I am not able to make that connection as of yet.

Also, Blas was married to Sophia Charles whose parents were Richard Charles and Carmen (maiden name unknown)--that, I believe, is where the Juaneño bloodline comes from. Recently I was referred to Helen Charles McMullen, the matriarch of San Juan Capistrano and head of the Indian Council. She had mentioned to me that her father Ralph Charles, who is buried at the mission, had told her about a half-sister named Sophia who was linked to the Lugo family. Unfortunately, Helen did not have her father's parents names.

In regards to my grandmother's side of the family, my grandmother Josephine( Moreno) Lugo (married to Frank James Lugo), has Juaneño blood as well, but I am not registered through her side, only through my grandfather. Her parents were Manuel Moreno and Adelina Celeya. Manuel's parents were Frank Moreno and Luciana Parra. I was told by a contact who works at the San Juan Capistrano Mission that the Parra family has a very heavy Juaneño bloodline, so I am also working on this little puzzle as well. The only information I have on Luciana Parra is that she had a sister named Lola. Adelina Celeya's parents were Carlos Celaya and Rafaela Mange. My aunt seems to think the Celeya name has some kind of significance, but I am not sure what yet.

So far the main names I am researching are Lugo, Charles and Parra. If you have any information that might help me, or you can refer me to a place or person who can, I would greatly appreciate it. I can also be e-mailed at home at timandchar88@sbcglobal.net or by my home phone at 909-689-6867 or use the information below to contact me. Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this lengthy message. [Charlene M. McNair (nonmember), Santa Ana, Calif. Charlene.McNair@ocgov.com]

Respuesta a Pregunta 180 - 21 February 2004

Information below from Marcy and Maurice Bandy; Shared Research April 2003: Lugo files. [MN=Marie Northrop; TWT=Thomas Workman Temple, II]

Francisco Salvador Lugo, born about 1740, Villa de Sinaloa, Sinaloa, México of
Juan Salvador and Josefa Espinosa (MN); married about 1760 Sinaloa (MN); buried at Mission Santa Barbara 17 May 1805 SBp#112 (MNsb). [per MN: with Rivera 1774, stationed in the north until 1781, soldier of escolta of Los Angeles from 1781]

Wife: Juana Martinez, born about 1745 Sinaloa (MN) of Jose Maria and Josefa Villanazul (MN); buried at Mission Santa Barbara 24 March 1790 SBp#18 (MNsb).

Child #7): Antonio Maria, baptized 13 June 1778 San Antonio Mission #499 (TWT); married (1) at Mission Santa Barbara 17 January 1796 to Maria Dolores Ruiz SB #20 (MNsb), married (2)at Mission San Gabriel 8 March 1842 SG II#30 (TWT) (Dispensado el impedimento de afinidad ilicita, en primer grado de linea recta); buried at Los Angeles Plaza Church 3 February 1860 PlazaII#648 (TWT). (Bancroft: soldier till 1809, Alcalde at LA '16 and '18, juez de campo '33-4, in '37-8 memb of the ayunt. [#308. Antonio Maria Lugo, claimant for San Antonio, in Los Angeles County, granted in 1810, by Jose Dario de Arguello, confirmed by Don Luis Arguello, 1 April 1823, extension granted by Jose M Echeandia 23 April 1827, and finally granted by Juan B Alvarado 27 September 1838 to A M Lugo.; claim filed 30 August 1852, confirmed by the Commission 21 February 1853, by the District Court 3 December 1855, and appeal dismissed 24 February 1857; containing 29,514.13 acres.] (1851 LA census #313)

Wife(1): Dolores Ruiz, baptized at Mission Santa Barbara 28 May 1783 SB #11 (MNsb) of Efigenio Lopez and Rosa Lopez; buried at Mission San Gabriel 14 March 1829 SG#5407 (TWT).

Child 7.11) Vicente, born at Mission San Gabriel about 1820 SG; confirmed 9 November 1831 Plaza #2050 (TWT); married at Mission San Gabriel infs December 1841 SG (TWT); living in 1851. [grantee with Jose del Carmen of San Bernardino] [Bancroft: justice at S. Gabriel '50, supervisor Los Ang Co '62-3] (1851 LA census #514)

Wife: Andrea Ballesteros, baptized 2 December 1824 SG#7239 (TWT) of Juan Figueroa and Maria Figueroa; living in 1851.

Child 7.11.7) Blas Antonio, baptized 4 February 1860 Plaza III#481 (TWT); married 4 July 1883 Plaza II#1790 (TWT) to Sophia Charles

Pregunta 179 - 21 February 2004

Looking for information about my great grandmother Serafina Cordero (Garcia). She was born in Santa Barbara on 29 October 1879. She died 06April 1973. Her father was Vicencio Parma and her mother's name was Maria Garcia. Any information will be appreciated. [Ramona Vranish (nonmember), Lompoc, Calif.] Note: our genealogist was able to trace Ramona's ancestors back to before 1848. La Tejedora]

Respuesta a Pregunta 179 - 13 April 2007

In response to pregunta 179, Serafina (or Cerafina) Cordero was my paternal great aunt. Her sister Marie (Mary) Cordero was my grandmother. Marie married my grandfather, Julius Voight and they had 10 children in the early 1900s, including my father, Frank Voight. [Cindy Blum (nonmember), Calimesa, Calif.]

Pregunta 178 - 2 February 2004

I am looking for some information on a woman, Maria Carmen Castro, born about 1851. I believe her parents were Lucio Castro and Gertrudia Jacome , but need confirmation on this. Maria Carmen married Juan M. Trujillo and was living in the Pala, San Diego area in the 1870s - 1880s. They had 7 children: Francisco, Juan, Delphino, Antonio or Andronico, son Ramshses, and daughter Ledland or possibly Ellen. Any information on her, her parents, dates, where any of them are buried, etc., would be appreciated. I know that some of her children were baptized at San Luis Rey and at St. Josephs Church, Old Town, but find no official birth, marriage, or death records for her other than the Census. [Dawn Thompson (nonmember), Costa Mesa, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 178 - 2 February 2004

Information below from the "Castro Files of the Maurice and Marcy Bandy Shared Research."
Juan Bautista Castro, born about 1790 Mexico
Ramona Valencia, born about 1800 Mexico
            Gertrudis Sorente Jacome, born about 1824 Mexico
          SG III#71 (TWT) to Juan Maria Trujillo, TTS Lino Castro
          y Francisca Perez
          2.2) Margarita, born about 1845 Sonora, conf Sep 5 1850
          Plaza #111 (TWT), mar Apr 20 1861 SG III#48 (TWT) to
          Feliz Gonzales, 21
               (TWT) (at Yorba, born Nov 21 1860 father Mariano)
          conf Sep 5 1850 Plaza #121 (TWT)
          SG III#8923 (TWT), conf Sep 5 1850 Plaza #119 (TWT)
          2.5) Jose Manuel Acasio, bap Apr 11 1852 SG III#9234
          (TWT), conf Jan 6 1856 SG II#114 (TWT)
          2.9) Petra Ramona Maria, bap Jun 3 1856 SG IV#9571
          (TWT)
          III#861 (TWT)

Pregunta 177 - 1 February 2004

I am looking for information on Zeferino Carlon, the father of Manuela Carlon who was the wife of Francis Ziba Branch. [Tom Driscoll (nonmember), San Diego, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 177 - 15 January 2005

My mother's paternal grandmother's name was Maria Andrea Carlon Price. She was born in Santa Barbara in 1829 and married John Michael (Miguel) Price, a native of Bristol, England who was born in 1810. They owned the Rancho Piesmo (Pismo) which included what is now Pismo Beach and Shell Beach, California. My belief is that she was a sister of the Carlon woman who married the man named Branch in Tom Driscoll's search. John Price had worked for Branch and probably met the sister (later his wife) through Branch. John Michael Price is listed in Bancroft's History of California. He had 15 children with Maria Andrea, one of whom was my maternal grandfather, Edwin Wingate Price, born in Pismo Beach about 1872-74. [G. B. (Gerry) Cullinane (nonmember), Oakland, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 177 - 1 February 2004

According to Marie Northrop's Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California: 1769- 1850, Vol. II, pp. 44-46: Jose Antonio Zeferino Carlon (Cortez) was born 10 February 1792 of Lt. Felipe Goycoechea and Maria Juana de Jesus Lara (natural child); baptized 11 February 1792 at Mission Santa Barbara. He married first Maria Antonia Valenzuela 17 November 1811 at Mission Santa Barbara. She died following the birth of twin boys, their first children, one of which also died. He married second Maria Dominga de la Transfiguracion Cota (born 4 August 1799 of Manuel Antonio Cota and Maria Gertrudis Romero; baptized 6 August 1799 at Mission San Fernando; died before 1844) 2 May 1813 at Mission Santa Barbara. They had 8 children born between 1815 and 1834. Their first child was Maria Manuela Carlon who was born and baptized 31 December 1815 at Mission Santa Barbara. She married Francisco Branch about 1835 at Santa Barbara. Zeferino married third Maria Magdalena Valenzuela and they had a son. Zeferino was a soldado de cuera. The illegitimate son of Goycoechea, he used the surnames of his stepfathers, Hilario Carlon and Felipe Cortez. He was at La Purisima in 1820; at Santa Barbara in 1834 and 1837; grantee of Rancho Arroyo Grande in 1841; and at San Luis Obispo in 1856.

Pregunta 176 - 1 February 2004

Would appreciate any information about Francisco Xavier Gastelum, who came to Los Angeles in 1839 [according to H. H. Bancroft's California Pioneer Register) and who died in the San Diego area in 1861. He was one of the first non-aboriginal inhabitants of the area of Baja California that is now Ensenada. I'd very much appreciate any information your readers have on Gastelum and his family, particularly Paula Gastelum, his daughter (who stayed in LA and married German immigrant John Behn).

I also would appreciate information and leads regarding José Manuel Ruiz Carrillo, Gastelum's father-in-law. Ruiz Carrillo was the third governor of Baja California, from 1822-24. [Joanne Mariner (nonmember), New York, N.Y.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 176 - 17 October 2004

Francisco Javier Gastelum was born about 1784 in El Fuerte, Sinaloa. He was a soldier in northern Baja California; promoted to corporal in 1811. In 1820 he was a sergeant. He arrived in Ensenada about 1824. Received Rancho San Rafael in 1826. In 1835 he was deputy mayor (alcalde auxiliar) of the northern territory, at San Vicente. He was justice of the peace (juez de paz) 1837-38. During the invasion of William Walker in 1854 his Ensenada ranch was robbed and sacked, and he was forced to sell it to his son-in-law, Pedro Gastelum (1861). He married Salvadora, daughter of José Manuel Ruiz. José Manuel Ruiz was born about 1755 in Loreto, Baja California, son of Juan María Ruiz and Isabel Carrillo. He died in September 1835, buried 18 September 1835 in La Paz. He was the first proprietor of Rancho Ensenada de Todos Santos, now the city of Ensenada. He arrived as a soldier in the area about 1805. In 1824 he transferred his Ensenada property to his son-in-law Francisco Javier Gastelum. Two streets in Ensenada are named after these men, who are considered the city's founders. [Rondi Frankel (nonmember), Mexico D.F.]

Pregunta 175 - 1 February 2004

I cannot find information on the California tribe that relatives said were called Carmelieno , was this another term for the original inhabitants of the area around Mission San Carlos Borromeo de Carmelo? [Mary Ryan (member), San Francisco, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 175 - 2 February 2004

As for the Carmelieno Indians, yes, I do believe that that is what they called the group that lived in and around Carmel Valley area, I also have heard reference to that name by my relatives, that is what the 1850s California Spanish locals called the local Indians. These were the natives who lived at the Mission San Carlos de Carmelo, that is what they were called after they were converted. The Carmelienos were from many different tribes located in and about the Monterey/Carmel Valley/South Coast/Salinas areas. Jimmie Hardy (member) [Jimmie Hardy (member), Winston, Oregon]

Pregunta 174 - 1 February 2004

Looking for more information on Pablo Antonio Cota y de Leon , and on his brother Roque Cota y de Leon ( older ) who is also my ancestor. [Mary Ryan (member), San Francisco, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 174 - 18 May 2004

If you have not already been given the title of an excellent history of your ancestor Pablo Antonio Cota (also my fifth great grandfather) look for the article "Paso por Aquí" in Antepasados III, 1978-1979. The author, Luann Davis Powell, has written a comprehensive overview of his service as a Soldado de Cuera, pgs. 29 - 40. [Ramona Reitz (member), Pacific Grove, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 174 - 1 February 2004

You probably have the following information, but just to be sure everyone is on the same page I will give a summary. According to Marie Northrop's Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California: 1769- 1850, Vol. I, pp. 116-120: the parents of Pablo and Roque were Andres Cota and Angela de Leon.

Pablo Antonio Cota was born about 1744 at El Fuerte, Sinaloa, México and buried 31 December 1800 at Mission Santa Barbara. He married Rosa Maria Lugo (born about 1763, La Villa de Sinaloa, Sinaloa, México of Francisco Lugo and Juana Maria Martinez; buried 10 January 1797 at Mission Santa Barbara) 30 November 1776 at Mission San Luis Obispo. They had nine children between 1779 and 1795: Manuel Antonio, Maria Apolonia, Maria Isabel Asencion, Maria Manuela, Francisco Atanasio, Bartolome Joseph, Maria de los Angeles (Santos), Maria Antonia Marta, and Thomasa de Gracia (Maria Tomasa). Pablo was a soldado de cuera of the 1769 Portolá Expedition, accompanying Sergeant Ortega from Velicata to San Diego. He was trailblazer for Portolá and Fr. Serra. He served as corporal at Mission San Antonio 1778-79; sergeant of escolta at San Buenaventura 1782-87; alferez from 1788; and was founder of the younger Cota branch of the family.

Roque Jacinto de Cota was born about 1724 at El Fuerte and buried 30 September 1798 at Mission San Fernando. He married Juana Maria Verdugo (born about 1740 at Loreto, Baja California, México of Juan Diego Verdugo and Maria Ygnacia Carrillo; buried 14 May 1835 at Los Angeles Plaza Church) at Loreto. Their 11 children were born between about 1756 and 1784: Maria (del Rosario) Beatriz, Maria Celia, Mariano Antonio, (Juan Ignacio) Guillermo, Maria Teresa de Jesus, Maria Loreta, Maria Josefa, Maria Luisa, Maria Ignacia Jacinta, Maria Dolores, and Maria Antonia Cipriana. Roque was at San Gabriel by 4 November 1778 and was in the escolta that escorted the pobladores to the founding of the Pueblo de Los Angeles on 4 September 1781.

I see that Jose Manuel Sepulveda married Maria Apolonia Cota (daughter of Pablo) and their child, Francisco Xavier (Fabian) Sepulveda married Maria Dolores Cota (daughter of Roque). Does this happen to be your line? Do you need more information on these people? [Benita H. Gray (member), San Diego, Calif.]

Pregunta 173 - 1 February 2004

I am requesting any information on Felipe Sebastian Alvitre and family. [Kathleen Alvitre (nonmember), Fremont, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 173 - 1 February 2004

According to Marie Northrop's Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California: 1769- 1850, Vol. I, pp. 24-25: Felipe Sebastian Alvitre was born about 1750 at Villa de Sinaloa, Sinaloa, México and was buried 22 February 1817 at Mission San Gabriel. About 1795 he married Maria Rufina Hernandez (born about 1750 at Loreto, Baja California, México) at Loreto Presidio. Their nine children (born between about 1796 and 1814) were Jacinto Maria, Juan Joseph Maria, Joseph Gabriel, Jose Antonio, Maria Dominga, Josef Vicente, Maria Florentina Calistra, Jose Claudio, and Maria Dolores. Which line are you interested in? Felipe was a soldado de cuera of the 1769 Portolá Expedition and settled at San José de Guadalupe in 1783. Bancroft names him an incorrigible scamp (which could mean either unscrupulous or playful, mischievous). He was at the Pueblo de Los Angeles in 1790. Northrop tells more about his children, but since the Alvitre entry is over 7 pages long, it is more than I can include here. Let me know which line you wish to follow and I will follow that one. You can also find Northrop's book at many libraries or purchase it through the Southern California Genealogical Society. [Benita H. Gray (member), San Diego, Calif.]

Pregunta 172 - 15 January 2004

Seeking information on the land concession, in Ojai, to José López circa 1790. A portion of the original concession had been in the family up to the 1980s under Thomas Lopez, another portion was sold in the 1960s by Celestina Lopez Starcher. [Margaret Vargas (nonmember), Ojai, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 172 - 9 February 2008

I am a descendent of the Jose Lopez or Jose de Jesus Lopez of Ojai, California.
I read your statement. Possibly by now you have your answer. Please contact.
[Robert Lopez (provisional member), Camarillo, Calif.] rvlopez@verizon.net

Pregunta 171 - 15 January 2004

One of my ancestors is Antonio Cota, and I know that he was one of the sons of Andres Cota and María Angela De León. I would like information on the parents' ancestors. When did they come to Mexico? I haven't been able to get information on any ancestors that precede these two. [Scott Sablier (nonmember), San Juan Capistrano, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 171 - 18 March 2005

Scott Sablier, please contact me for additional information. Also, I would in particular like to obtain a CD of your recent musical endeavor as soon as possible. Thank you SPOS, nielsenjanc@aol.com [Arlene H. K. Nielsen (nonmember), Clayton, Calif.] Note: We hope you will be able to share some of your information with the readers -- others are interested in the same lines. La Tejedora

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