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Estolano was the
younger half-brother of my great-grandfather,
Martin del Patricinio,
born in 1850 to
Manuel Salvador Larios y Linares and
his first wife, Maria
Antonia del Carmen Pacheco y Cantua. Patricinio
married
Helen MacDonald Behan.
Estolano's
mother was
Rosario Armas de Higuera,
Manuel Salvador's
third wife. Estolano
and
Patricinio
were the two remaining minor children when
Manuel Salvador
died in 1865.
Estolano told of
meeting
Patricinio and
Helen in Ralph
Milliken's California Dons.
My father remembered
Estolano
visiting his family in Reno, Nev., when he was a child, in the 1920-30s.
My sister,
Francisca, just
this past week found living descendants of
Helen's sister.
We know little about
Patricinio's early
adult life. Your inquiry includes details which might help us find more
about him as well as
Estolano. I am
responding immediately to your inquiry and now have to take some time to
plan the next step. I have forwarded your inquiry to my sister so I can
discuss it with her. [Boyd de Larios (member), South San Francisco, Calif.]
Note: My Scottish-Irish grandmother put the "de" in my surname.
Pregunta 415 - 24 February 2007I am a descendant of Ygnacio Ruiz and his second wife, Benedita Valencia. I noticed in the baptismal records at the Huntington Library mission records that a Juana Juliana Ruiz was baptized at the age of eight at Mission San Juan Capistrano. Her father is listed as Ygnacio Ruiz and Maria Valeriana Lorenzano was listed as her mother. What I do not understand is that the record also lists father's spouse as Maria Borbon (Gorgona) [who was Ygnacio's first wife] and the mother's spouse as Desiderio Ybarra. Also in the record the recorder added a note that stated "Lo que manifesó bajo el secreto natural". My question is -- was Juana Juliana a child of Ygnacio even though he was already married to Maria Gorgona Valenzuela ? [Jean Gurzi (nonmember), Riverside, Calif.] Respuesta a Pregunta 415 - 2 March 2008I have a possible answer to this question. María Valeriana Lorenzana married Diego Ybarra on 20 September 1807 at the San Diego Presidio. According to the christening record, she was already pregnant as her daughter Juana Juliana was born on 28 January 1808. The record states that she was christened "en peligro de muerte" - in danger of death - by corporal Cristóbal Domínguez. This was allowed by the Catholic church when a child, usually a newborn, was facing imminent death and no priest was at hand. Ignacio Ruiz was a married soldier at the presidio at the time. Since Juana Juliana was born only 4 months after her mother's marriage, the priest may have refused to complete her christening at the time ("suplí ceremonia" means "I completed the ceremony"). Ygnacio Ruiz married again in 1818, and may have confessed to being the father then, during the premarital questioning, and thus the church authorities may have agreed to having Juana Juliana's christening confirmed. As Juana Juliana Ybarra, she married Nicolás Olivas on 18 January 1824 at Mission San Gabriel. [Rondi Frankel (nonmember), Mexico City, Mexico] Pregunta 414 - 24 February 2007
I am doing some research on the
Arce's of Baja, Sur. I am looking for the family of the
members of the San Jose de Arce's Ranch in or near La Purisima. We were the
offspring of our father
Joseph Mayoral Arce,
born in 1912 in Nogales, Arizona. His parents were Francisco
Arce and
Juana Guadalupe Mayoral
(born 1860 and 1875 in La Purisima, married in 1894 and had 10 children).
Francisco's parents were
Ramon Arce and
Rosa Mayoral
(born 1816? and Rosa birth unknown).
Juana
Guadalupe's parents were
Manuel Mayoral and
Carmen
Arviso (born in 1853 and 1859).
Francisco was
married before to
Basilia Higuera Arce
and they had 6 children. Don't know ages or when married or what happened
to Basilia
and children.Thanks for any help you can give me on tracing my linage back
to Villa Sinaloa. [Irene Barnett (nonmember)]
Pregunta 413 - 24 February 2007We have just recently discovered that my husband’s family lineage Botiller comes from France. The widow Agnes Rocha Botiller (she was born in Portugal) came to California with four children and married a Frank Lavas, Lavis, Layvas (not sure of the spelling) [possibly Leyva]. She had two more children by him Loupie and Rafaella and then she seems to have died (cannot find any records of her death 1900-1910). The Botiller children, Alexander (my husband’s grandfather), Sousa, Albert and Thaddio all scattered and presumably were adopted by other families? (Our last name should be Botiller but my husband’s mother made him take his step-Dad's name). My question is that I would appreciate any information on Thaddio Botiller who also has disappeared with no death record and Agnes. Thank you. By the way we do have some wonderful photographs we will love to share with your group as we used to take his grandparents to many Los Californianos functions. [Kathy Beebe (nonmember), Charlotte, N.C.] UPDATE Pregunta 413 - 6 March 2007Just found out my husband's grandfather Alexander Botiller's death certificate lists his mother's maiden name as Rocha. Remember, I said he was supposedly adopted so I am not sure if this is his real mother's maiden name or his adopted mother;s. He was born in 1893 and died in 1989. He had a brother, Albert, and a sister, Suzy Baque. He and his wife, Clorinda, were in the Los Californios Club (I remember taking them to the meetings at Ms. Mata's (sp) house near the beach back in the mid 70s. Bottom line is we are trying to find who we really are. Our name is not Botiller because my husband's stepfather adopted him so we are Beebes, but not really, and Botillers, but not really. Any help is much appreciated. Are there any resources for adoption papers for the early 1900s? [Kathy Beebe (nonmember), Charlotte, N.C.] Pregunta 412 - 24 February 2007I am looking for information on my great grandmother, Angelina Fraijo. She was married to Juan Bautista Miguel Ayllon. Her parents were Don Gregorio Fraijo and Maria Francisca Mendez .[born 1830 Los Angeles, Calif.] Thank you [Michele T. May (Ayon) (nonmember), Azusa, Calif.] Pregunta 411 - 24 February 2007
I just found your site and I need help with
California Mexican research. My great great grandmother was born in
California about 1834. I have found her name, her parents' names, and where
they lived.
Felipa la Portilla
supposedly was a "ward" of
Pio Pico. Her
parents lived in San Luis Rey, San Diego, Calif. Their names were Don Pablo
y Teadora Robles. That is all I have found and I can't find anyone that can
help me with pre-statehood research. Any help would be appreciated and I am
willing to join your organization. [Dian Price (nonmember)]
Note: although we are so very happy to acquire new
members, you do not have to be a member to access the Web site or to attend
our quarterly meetings and use the research materials in our Traveling
Genealogy Library which is open Friday afternoons and evenings and all day
Saturday at each meeting. We will be glad to help you. La Tejedora
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