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information. La Tejedora
Pregunta 51 - 9 December 2001
Ando buscando informacion sobre
Juan de Ayala, un soldado que venia en la expedicion de De
Anza o Cabrillo a Monterey y San Francisco. Alguien me puede sugerir algun
libro o web site? Quedare muy agradecida por cualquier informacion. [Ayala
(nonmember), San Mateo, Calif.]
My rough translation: I am looking for information
about Juan
de Ayala, a soldier that came on the
expedition of De Anza to Monterey and San Francisco. Is anyone able to suggest
to me a book or web site? I would be very grateful for any information.
La Tejedora
As you can see below, I can (at least I think I can)
get the important part translated into Spanish, but I would be very happy if
someone could send me more exact translations.
Pregunta por Teresa - 12 September 2006
Hello Teresa: Your message states: "Ayala
is listed on the 1782 Garrison List for San Diego. [Teresa Russell y Espinosa de
Boronda (nonmember), Long Beach, Calif.]" Is this
Jose Calisto Ayala you are referring to? Where did you
find him on the 1782 Garrison List for San Diego? Thanks for your information! [Lorraine
Moffat (member), Hesperia, Calif.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 51 - 12 February 2005
My 4th grade granddaughter and I have been searching for information re Lt. Juan
Manuel De Ayala. We even e-mailed a public library in Sevilla,
España [no response yet]. However, a Mr. Carey with the San Francisco Public
Library directed us to the University of California, Berkeley Library where we
found the information you see here. In no other instance did we find ANYTHING re
his date of birth or when/where he died. I hope this helps everyone. Ramon
Christopher Ayala & Danielle Ayala
By royal edict, a maritime expedition for the exploration of the northwestern
coasts of America sailed from San Blas early in the year 1775. This consisted of
the frigate Santiago, under the commander-in-chief, Don Bruno
de Heceta; the packet boat San Carlos, under Lieutenant Ayala;
and the schooner Sonora, under Lieutenant Bodega.
To Lieutenant Ayala
was assigned the exploration of the Bay of San Francisco, while the Santiago and
the Sonora sailed for the north. Bodega
discovered the Bay which bears his name, and Heceta
(to spell his name as it is usually written) discovered the Columbia River.
Bancroft (History of California), in giving Palou's Vida as
authority for his short and incorrect account of Ayala's
survey, says: "It is unfortunate that neither map nor diary of this
earliest survey is extant." It is with pleasure we are permitted to present
to the public these important documents, now printed for the first time, and
only regret that the shortness of time allowed for their study may perhaps
necessitate later some minor corrections.
We have also received from the Minister of Marine of Spain, Don Jos? Ferrano,
under date of July 14, 1909, a drawing of the paquebote, San Carlos, together
with the record of her gallant commander, Don
Juan Manuel de Ayala.
Ayala
was born in Osuna, Andalucia, on the 28th of December 1745. He entered the
Marine Corps on the 19th of September 1760, and was made Alférez de Fragata,
October 10, 1767; Alférez de Navio, June 15, 1769; Teniente de Fragata, April
28, 1774; Teniente de Navio, February, 1776; and Capitan de Fragata, December
21, 1782.
When the order for the exploration of the northern coast was made, Ayala
was one of the officers assigned to the work. He arrived in Vera Cruz in August
1774, proceeded to the City of Mexico, and was ordered by Viceroy Bucareli to
San Blas, where he was given command of the schooner Sonora. The squadron under
Heceta had hardly got under way, when the commander of the San Carlos, Don
Miguel Manrique, suddenly went mad. Ayala
was ordered to the command of the packet-boat, and returned to San Blas with the
unfortunate officer, to follow the squadron a few days later.
In December 1775, Ayala
conducted a reconnaissance on the coast of New Spain, and at
its conclusion was placed in command of the Santiago, and until October 1778,
served the new establishments of California. In August 1779, he was sent to the
Philippine Islands in command of the San Carlos, returning to San Blas in 1781.
In July 1784, he returned to Spain, and on March 14, 1785, was retired, at his
own request, the royal order granting him full pay as captain of frigate in
consideration of his services to California. He died December 30, 1797
Maybe Mr. Carey can help you w/ your search tcarey@sfpl.org
[Ramon Christopher Ayala (nonmember), Alhambra, Calif.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 51 - 25 February 2002
In the spring of 1769, Juan
Manuel de Ayala in the ship San Carlos, carried
supplies and colonists for the new pueblo to be founded in San Diego.
Again in command in 1775, he sailed with the fleet from México to San Francisco
Bay.
On August 2, 1775,
Lieutenant Ayala reached
an island in San Francisco Bay that he named Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles
(Angel Island). Ayala's
mission was to explore for Spain the estuaries of San Francisco Bay and discover
any connection between Drake's Bay and San Francisco Bay. Ayala
remained on Angel Island for 40 days. The explorers came ashore to Marin
several times, visiting the hospitable Ranchería of Olompali.
Ayala
and José
Canizares, his subordinate, jointly gained the honor of making
the first recorded entrance into San Francisco Bay. They named not only
Angel Island but also another island, Isla de los Alcatraces (Island of the
Pelicans), now known as Alcatraz Island. It was Ayala's
exploration that determined suitability for establishing, the San Francisco
Mission and Presidio. [Teresa Russell y Espinosa de Boronda (nonmember), Long
Beach, California]
Respuesta a Pregunta 51 - 29 December 2001
I have found reference to a Juan
Ayalain in H. H. Bancroft's History of California,
indexed Volume 1 and references in Volumes 3 & 4 (not much genealogical
information, mostly historical accounts of happenings in early California,
1838-48). There is also reference to the Ayala
name in H. H. Bancroft's History of Mexico, indexed in Volume 6 and
referenced in Volume 2, 1546-69. Also there is mention of a Prudencia
Ayala (who was a manager for Don
Carlos Antonio Carrillo at his rancho, "Sespe," in
the Santa Clara Valley) in the book, The Place Called Sespe by R. G.
Cleland. I just at this moment was reading the book when I came across the Ayala
name! This book is one of the new acquisitions to my ever growing library.
Sincerely [Jim Hardy de Estrada (member), Winston, Oregon]
Hay referencias a
Juan
Ayalain en H. H. Bancroft's History
of California, Volumens 1, 3, y 4 (muy poco información de familias, por lo
general, informes historicas de sucesos en California temprana, 1838-48). También,
hay referencias al nombre de en H. H. Bancroft's History of Mexico, Volumens
6 y 2, 1546-69. También, hay una Prudencia
Ayala (director por Don Carlos Antonio
Carrillo a su rancho, "Sespe," en el Valle de Santa Clara) en el
libro, T por R. G. Cleland.
La Tejedora
Respuesta a Pregunta 51 - 29 December 2001
The Ayalas
are very famous.
An Ayala
was Captain of the ship, San Carlos, which first discovered San Francisco Bay. Ayalas
were at the groundbreaking for the Mission Dolores. There is a lot of history of
Ayala
family lines and land grants. They built and lived in adobes in the 1840s and
1850s. Of course, they had Native American wives. Ayala
is listed on the 1782 Garrison List for San Diego. [Teresa Russell y Espinosa de
Boronda (nonmember), Long Beach, Calif.]
Los Ayalas
son muy famosos. Un Ayala
fué Capitán del barco, San Carlos, que descubrió la Bahía de San Francisco. Ayalas
estaron al comienzo de Misión Dolores. Ellos construieron y vivieron en adobes
en los 1840s y 1850s. Claro, algunas esposas fueron indigenas. Ayala
estó en el Padrón del Presidio de San Diego de 1782.
La Tejedora
Respuesta a Respuesta de Teresa - 24 January 2002
Hi Teresa: José
Calisto Ayala is my ancestor. His was the first marriage
in Santa Barbara. He married Juana
Vitala Felix in 1786. They are the founders of the Ayala
family in California. Please tell me what record you have of an Ayala
in San Diego in 1782? I would really appreciate it! [Lorraine Moffat
(member), Hesperia, Calif.]
Respuesta a Lorraine - 22 March 2002
Lorraine Moffat: Let's back up to the early beginnings. As soon as the Perez
expedition returned to San Blas on 27 August 1774 in the Santiago, Viceroy
Bucareli gave orders for the ship to be ready for more
exploration. The commander was First
Lt. Bruno de Hezeta. Hezeta's
expedition was to include a reconnaissance of San Francisco Bay, which was made
by Lieutenant
Juan de Ayala on the San Carlos in August 1775.
Reference: from the Gazeta de Madrid, 14 May 1776, pp. 175-76"
"The Very Excellent Viceroy of New Spain, Don
Antonio Maria Bucareli, continuing his reports on the
expedition of the Frigate Santiago, Schooner Sonora, and Packet boat San Carlos,
which under the command of Battleship Lieutenant Don
Bruno de Eceta and Frigate Lieutenants Don
Juan Francisco de la Bodega and Don
Juan de Ayala, who left the Port of San Blas on the Nueva
Galicia, at the beginning of 1775, to advance as far as possible the voyages and
discoveries of the Northern coast of Californias, and examine the Port of San
Francisco (of whose happy progress news was given in the Gazeta of March
19 of the present year) has lately communicated the return of the two first
ships to the said Port of San Blas, sending the log books and authentic
documents of their respective commanders, in which is is recorded that they
examined different Ports on the same coast which they named, and took possession
of them as well as the other territories stretching from the Port of Monte-Rey
to latitude 58 degrees, with the consent and satisfaction of their natives. And
since the Naval Officers and Pilots made plans and a very exact map of those
coasts and Northern Seas, His Majesty has decided that they should be Engraved
and given to the public, as was done with the results of the last voyage to
Monte-Rey." Respectfully submitted with more to follow later- [Teresa
Russell y Espinosa de Boronda (nonmember), Long Beach, Calif.]
Thanks
so much for the great information Teresa, but we are still curious about the
1782 Garrison List of San Diego which you mentioned included an
Ayala,
or could that have been a typographical error as to date or place? La Tejedora
Pregunta 50 - 5 December 2001
[UPDATE - 6 January 2002]
HELP.........cannot connect great great great grand-parent, Juan
Castro Bernal (born 1812, died 1874), married to María
Barbara Espinosa (born 1830, died 1904). Also my great
grand-parent, Antonio
Bernal (born 1853, died 1920), married Altagracia
Higuera (born ?, died 1918). I only have those
names and dates from family information. I cannot verify anything. I have
a copy of the family land grant, Cañada de Pala [now
Grant Park]. I would like any information
concerning these families. If I can help anyone else, let me know. [Still
looking for Bernal, Higuera, Espinosa, Castro, Mesa, Soto, and Cabrero
information.] [Sharon
Williams (nonmember), Sacramento, CA. [new e-mail
address] slwilliams@surewest.net]
Respuesta a Pregunta 50 - 22 February 2002
Antonio María
Sunol deserted in California (1818) from Spain on the French
ship "Bordelais." He married María
Dolores Bernal, held an excellent reputation, owned Rancho
Coches in Santa Clara County, California. However,
he lived at the Pueblo de San José.
Rancho El Valle de San José was granted to four family members on 23 February
and 10 April 1839.Don
Antonio María Pico married Pilar
Bernal and sold his fourth of Rancho El Valle de San José to Juan
P. Bernal. The original name was Alisal, (from
Alder tree). Augustin
Bernal moved to his portion of the Rancho and built an adobe
casa in April 1850
Joaquin Bernal
was a Presidio soldier at San Francisco and San José.
He was granted Rancho Santa Teresa in Santa Clara County in 1834. In
1853 his son, Augustin,
claimed that Rancho.
The Bernals
were good business managers, and therefore better able to hold on to their land
grants. [Teresa Russell (nonmember), Long Beach, Calif.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 50 - 29 December 2001
I have some information on the Bernal
family name for Sharon. Also there
is reference to the Bernal
name in H. H. Bancroft's History of California, indexed in Vol. 2. Sharon
can e-mail me and I will attempt to help her.
SUGGESTION: Mas importante, most names can be researched fairly well by
looking in to Hubert Howe Bancroft's works, especially his volumes dedicated to
California and Mexico histories. Some of these volumes are available on
interlibrary loan from your local library. Also a wealth of information can be found in Spanish-Mexican
Families of Early California by Marie E. Northrop [Jim Hardy de Estrada
(member), Winston, Oregon, : flyingrocks@mcsi.net
]
Note: we really like to have information come through
the Web site if possible. That way, everyone interested in the name gets the
information, not just the one who submitted the query. Also note, we do not post
e-mail addresses unless the person specifically requests that the address be
shared.
La Tejedora
Pregunta 49 - 5 December 2001
In the California Pioneer Register and Index 1542-1848 there is a
family that interest me very much -- a soldier in San Francisco, by the name of Hilario
Miranda, wife Juana
Cibrian, children José
Francisco (born 1828), José
Jesús, Casmiro,
Alejo,
Clemente,
and María de
Gracia. My great-grandfather's name was Francisco
and he had a brother named Jesus,
but I never knew of other siblings. Is there any one doing research on this
family? If you are please contact me. [Hortencia Miranda Albert [nonmember],
Bakersfield, CA]
Pregunta 48 - 8 October 2001
My first ancestor to come to California, was José
Antonio Yorba,
my great-great-great grandfather on my maternal side. He was a Catalan soldier
from Spain, who came with Father Serra in 1769. He was given a Spanish land grant
from the King of Spain. After retirement he settled in Orange County. I have
much information on this line.
My Grandma Felipa
Yorba
was the daughter of O.
Vicente Yorba and Marriana
F. Peralta. She married Juan
Farias and came to Culver City, California after marriage and
raised her family there. Juan
was the son of Tomasa
Talamantes, the daughter of Guadalupe
Talamantes, who was the daughter of Felipe
Talamantes. Tomasa's
father was Joseph
Farias [see correction below]. They shared a land grant with the Machado
family.
Is any one
working on this line in Culver City? I have very little information on Farias
or Talamantes.
Please get in touch with me. [Eva Booher (nonmember), Santa Monica,
Calif., evabooher@aol.com]
CORRECTION
Hi, I noticed on my query there
is a mistake, how can I correct it? It is about Tomasa
Talamantes,
Jose Farias was her husband not father. If you can correct it
I would appreciate it? Thank You. Eva Booher
Note
to readers: just send corrections in to LaTejedora@loscalifornianos.org.
Be sure to give the Pregunta number, e.g., in this case
Pregunta 48.
Respuesta a Pregunta 48 - 3 May 2004
I was looking up some heritage while on the telephone with my grandfather and
he informed me that he is the sole owner of a historical book going back to the
maps and original travelings and owners of the original Spanish land grant
referenced in Pregunta 48. He has almost every person and the families
from this time period documented up until 1850 or so, including the Machados
and Talamantes.
Please, if you are still researching this information, feel free to email me
with any questions at ninifer2@yahoo.com.
[Jennifer Yendes (member), Riverside, Calif.]
Pregunta 47 - 8 October 2001
Than you for your response to Pregunta 46 on 15 September 2001. We are
trying to locate the children and grandchildren of Felipe Briones
who died in
Contra Costa County in 1840. Thank you for anything that you can share with us.
[Susan DeJonghe (not yet member), Tucson, Ariz.]
Respuesta a Preguntas 46 y 47 - 23 June 2005
I have some knowledge of the area where
Felipe Briones lived his last years. Please e-mail me at Briones00@aol.com.
I use this e-mail name because of the area I was raised and still live in. I am
interested in compiling history of the area. [Lawrence Nunes (nonmember),
Martinez, Calif.]
Pregunta 46 - 15 September 2001
For years my sister and I have listened to the stories that our grandmother
and great uncle told of our ancestors coming to San Francisco with Father Junípero
Serra and establishing a mission. Supposedly this person(s) that
came with Father Serra kept journals of the trip. My grandmother said that
the family was buried in Mission Dolores, but when we were there many years ago
the priest told us the many of the older graves had been moved. To where
he did not know! We heard about the land grant and how the Crocker Bank
took it from the family; stories of healers and use of herbs in the
healing; of a great-great-??? grandfather that was killed in an Indian
raid.
My sister and I are trying to search those roots. We know that our
great grandmother was Belinda Briones
(born 1871), who had a sister, Martha,
and a
brother, John M. Briones
(1874-1968), who is buried in Alhambra (Pioneer)
Cemetery. Belinda's mother was
Matilda Alviso
(born 1842), from Vallejo.
We were recently given this additional information. Can anyone help us
further?
(Gen 1) Ygnacio Briones
(Gen 2) Marcos Briones (1757-1841)
(Gen 3) Felipe Briones (1790-1840)
(Gen 4) Casimiro Briones
(b Mar 4,1823-?)
married
Matilda Alviso,(1842-1913)
[Susan DeJonghe (not yet member), Tucson, Ariz.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 46 - 7 September 2006
Ygnacio
Vicente Briones was the son of Francisco
Briones and Manuela
Maria Loredo of San Luis Potosi, Mexico. He married Marsela
Antonia Padron February 1758 at Santa Maria del Rio Church in
San Luis Potosi. His brother, Jose
Alejandro, married Marsela's
sister, Claudia
Josefa, the same day. The brides were the daughters of Jesus
Maria Nicolas Padron and Simona
Gertrudes Morales. There is a marriage license in Spanish
on record with the LDS Genealogy Library for both couples. The record
notes that the grooms and brides were American-born Spaniards. Ygnacio
along with his son, Marcos
Jose, had come North to San Diego around 1770 and than settled
in San Francisco around 1777. Felipe
Santiago Briones (Marcos'
son) according to the records was killed during a skirmish with the Natives
during an uprising in 1840. Presentacion
Briones is actually a Miranda.
Her mother was Juana
Briones and her father Apolinario
Miranda.
Juana
owned her own home and land and her twin sister, Maria
de Luz, (who was married years earlier) lived with her. Their
sister, Guadalupe,
was married to Candelario
Miramontes of Half Moon Bay. They had at least 18
children. Spanish women as a general rule assumed their maiden name
whenever their husband may have died. Thank you to all for the information
presented. [Patrick Garcia (nonmember), Spokane, Wash.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 46 - 1 February 2004
I was raised and still live in the Briones Hills. I have read about your
relative Felipe
and I am interested in the local history. I believe I know where the home site
was in what is now Homestead Valley in Briones Regional Park. (one of the East
Bay Regional Parks). There are seven large cypress trees there that are probably
about 200 years old. I am also somewhat familiar with what is known as the
Higuera Ranch area. There is a 64 square mile area here known as the Briones
Hills Agricultural Preservation Area. In fact there is controversial development
proposed that has initiated a group called the Briones Hills Preserve Alliance a
website, http://www.brioneshills.org
tells more [Lawrence Nunes (nonmember), Martinez, Calif.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 46 - 4 January 2002
I have found a few listings of the names requested in the book, Spanish-Mexican
Families of Early California 1769-1850 by Marie Northrop. The book is
available for interlibrary loan through your local library and from the
California Library system. They are also for sale (2 volume set) by e-mail at
scgs@earthlink.net . A summary of what is included in the book follows.
Marcos Joseph
[p. 88] Briones was born about 1757 at San Luis
Potosí, México. His Parents were, Vicente Briones and
María Antonia de
Padrón. Marcos married 27
September 1784 at Mission San Carlos de Monterey to María Isidora
Tapia, born
about 1771 at Culiacan, Mexico. Her parents were Felipe Santiago Tapia
(He came to California in 1776 with the Anza expedition.) and
María Filomena
Hernández.
María Isidora died in Santa Cruz about 1812, and Marcos Joseph died in December
1841 in Monterey. Marcos
José [p. 89] Briones came to Alta California with his
father in 1771; invalido [retired soldier]
at Branciforte in 1791-1800; comisionado [a
soldier appointed to carry out a special appointment] at Branciforte in 1812; living at San Jose in 1804-41.
Marcos and
María had 13 children. Child #4 was
Phelipe [p. 88;
Felipe
on p. 82] Santiago
Briones, baptized 18 February 1790 at Mission San Antonio. He
was married 28 November 1810 at Mission Santa Clara to Manuela
Valencia. He died
6 January 1840 near Santa Clara [p.88; near San Jose p. 82]. Wife María
[p.82] Manuela Valencia was born 31 December 1795 and baptized 1 January
1796 at Mission Santa Clara. Her parents were Francisco Valencia (who also came
with Anza in 1776) and María Victoria
Higuera.
Felipe and
María had 14 children of which #7 was
Casimiro, who was born 4
March 1823 and baptized 5 March 1823 at Mission Santa Clara. He was married
about 1846 to Dolores
Higuera.
H. H. Bancroft lists Felipe as
regidor [a
city official--exact duties varies during different time periods] at San
Jose in 1820. Manuela Valencia de Briones is listed as widowed at San Jose in
1841 at age 47. She had 11 children of which one was Casimero born in 1824. The
later information was from the index in H. H. Bancroft's History of California,
Vol. II . There is mention of a Captain Briones in
Bancroft's History of Mexico,
Vol. II., pages 33-4.
I highly recommend that the books, Spanish-Mexican Families of Early
California: 1769-1850 (2 volumes). I borrowed them from a library at first; then I decided to purchase them for
my own family research. Anybody who is doing family research during the periods
of 1769-1850 in California will find them invaluable. [Jimmie Hardy de
Estrada (member), Winston, Oregon]
Respuesta a Pregunta 46 - 29 September 2001
Open the California history books and feast your eyes on page after page of
proud heritage. Rancho Collayomi, (3 leagues) in Loconoma Valley was given to Robert
T. Ridley on 17 June 1844 by Governor
Micheltorena. Ridley
was an English sailor who became Captain of the Port of San Francisco in 1846. He
was a naturalized Mexican citizen and in 1844 married
Presentación
Briones.
Rancho Los Baulenes was granted to Gregorio
Briones in November 1845 by Governor
Pio Pico. It extends around Bolinas Bay. Don
Gregorio Briones' house stood on the west shore of the bay
near an embarcadero; the house of Pablo
Briones (son) stood near the NE boundary line of the rancho.
Rancho La Purísima
Concepción
was granted
30 June 1840 to Indians. (Hoa!) They sold it to Juana
Briones in 1840. The parents of Juana
came with Father
Magin de Catalá,
Franciscan Friar, to Monterey and on to Santa Clara Mission in 1794. Children
were Guadalupe, María
la Luce
(unmarried), Juana
born at Carmel/Monterey, another sister who married a Martínez,
and son Gregorio,
a doctor living in Bolinas.
Juana
lived with her sister Guadalupe
and moved to Mission Dolores. Juana
had an adobe casa in the north beach area of San Francisco. She was
kind to sick and deserting sailors, acted as a doctor, nurse, and
midwife in San Francisco and Santa Clara. She traveled by ox cart. Each
year she had a family reunion/BBQ. [Teresa Russell y Espinosa de Boronda (nonmember), Long
Beach, Calif.]
Pregunta 45 - 15 September 2001
I am descended from Bojórquez.
My father used to tell stories about our ancestor, "López,
the horse
thief." He said
López
was
hung, but never talked about innocence or guilt or the circumstances. Do any of
you know of this story?
López
was
the first husband of
María
Marcela Bojórquez.
She remarried in the plaza church in Los Angeles in, I think, 1855 or so.
All her children were born before the to her and López
.
I do not know where in California he was killed.
Pregunta 44 - 15 September 2001
I'm filling in some loose ends of my wife's family. I'm looking for the
pedigree of
Carlos
Valdéz,
born 4 Mar. or Nov. 1848, believed in Santa Barbara, Calif. His parents names
are
Inacinti
and
Francisca
Ortega, both believed born in California (Santa Barbara). They
lived in Santa Barbara in 1847.
Carlos
was married twice , to sisters. First, 4 Jan. 1874, Monterey, to
Vincenta
[Vicenta?]
E.
Espinosa, born 1855, believe in Monterey County. She died
30 July 1885, Monterey, Calif. after 8 children. The second marriage, 7
Nov. 1888, Monterey to
Adelina
E. Espinosa, born 20 Feb. 1860. She died in Pacific Grove, Calif.
(Monterey County) 15 Jan. 1918 with 10 children. Also need pedigree for the Espinosa
girls. Thank You. [Art Woodfin and Noreen Beron-Woodfin (not yet members),
Chualar, Calif.]
Pregunta 43 - 15 September 2001
Eight generations back my grandparents were
Francisco
Jiménez
(born about 1773 in Los Angeles) and
María
Gertrudis
Guadalupe
García
(born 14 Dec. 1777 in Monterey). She is the 4th child of
Felipe
Santiago García
and
María
Petra Juaquina
Alcántara
Lugo,
first white parents in Baja California. Francisco's
father was
Nicolás
Ximénez
and his mother is supposed to be
Micaela López,
however, we have the wrong lady. The one we have is abt 80 years too old.
Can anyone help us find her (the real mother). They were supposedly married in
New Mexico but I recently discovered that the
Micaela López
we
have was married to Francisco
de Mascarenas in 1718. Please help. [Arnell VerHoef
(nonmember), Mesa, Ariz.]
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