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Pregunta 470 - 27 October 2007

Hi, my name is Jim Carrillo. My late father is Peter Carrillo. His father was also Peter Sydney Carrillo, who was the son of Leo Carrillo's brother. I was really curious to see which brother of Leo's was my father's great grandfather. Thank you for your attention! Have a great day! P.S. My MySpace page is www.myspace.com/JazzyKeys67 Sincerely, [James Christopher Carrillo (nonmember)]

Pregunta 469 - 27 October 2007

I am researching descendants/heirs to the Anza and Moraga linage son's great grandfather Lt. Don Jose Joaquín Moraga from Mission Dolores San Francisco. Researchers email back mendomace@yahoo.com [Gayle (not yet member), Calif.] Note: please cc your responses to the Web site. I have suggested she check Marie Northrop's Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California: 1769-1850, vol. I, pp. 232-235 to start. La Tejedora

Pregunta 468 - 27 October 2007

 My great grandfather's name was Ramon Velarde and my grandfather's name was Pablo Velarde.
 According to our family history the Velardes  came from Spain, then  to New Mexico (via ) Land Grant and then to California -- San Bernardino and Colton Valley (AquaMansa)  in the 1840s and  later with two others  developed the  first  water systems in that area. If you have any sources of information that would verify this history, please advise. Thank you, [Ron Velarde (nonmember), Simi Valley, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 468 - 21 August 2008

You can find your Velardes (or Belardes) in several of the published histories of Riverside and San Bernardino counties.  They are part of the New Mexican "colony" of San Salvador de Jurupa (Agua Mansa /La Placita) which is now largely part of Colton.  The best book on that community is Defending Eden by Joyce C. Vickery.  The given names "Pablo" and "Ramon" have recurred over several generations.  Without more specifics as to time periods, I'd surmise you are a grandson of the Pablo "Pasvalo" Velarde who was born in 1879 and died in 1936, a son of Ramon J. Velarde (1857-1933) & Maria Trinidad Velarde (1865-1917). That Ramon was, in turn, a son of the Pablo Velarde referenced as among the early settlers of San Salvador.  He was born in Abiquiu, New Mexico on 15 January 1828 (a son of Francisco Baltazar Velarde & Maria Susanna Roybal) and died in Colton, California in 09 October 1922.  His wife, Maria, was a daughter of Jose A. Velarde (who was born in New Mexico in 1837 and died in California in 1870) & of Philomena Aranjo, who was born in 1845.  Pablo Velarde gave an interview in 1922 recalling his journey with his parents to California between 1838 and 1844.  That account is published in Brown & Boyd's History of  San Bernardino and Riverside Counties in the biographical section. [Alexander King (member), Los Angeles, Calif.]

Pregunta 467 - 27 October 2007

I stumbled across your Web site after a Google search attempting to find out some information on my ancestry.  My grandmother is Helen Larios (maiden name).  I am trying to locate a book she told me about were our family history is documented.  The book is Quicksilver Country, California’s New Idria Mining District by Peter C. Frusetta. [Loretta Rosas (nonmember)] 

Respuesta a Pregunta 467 - 27 October 2007
Please let me know more about yourself. Are you in the San Benito County area? Are you familiar with other Larios descendants from that area? I am a great, great grandson of Manuel Salvador Larios and Maria del Carmen Pacheco. My great grandfather, Martin del Patrocinio Larios, was their youngest son, born in 1850. He married Helen Behan. She taught school in San Francisco. I believe she died sometime in the 1940s. Manuel Salvador died in San Juan Bautista in 1865. His third wife, Rosario Armas de Larios, with her son, Estolano Larios, and her Higuera children from a previous marriage moved to New Idria. I do not know names of others in the Larios family who went to New Idria, but I have met a number of their descendants. Cousin Bob Picha in Hollister knows them best.
 
Three copies of Peter Frusetta's Quicksilver Country (1991) are available on Amazon.com for approximately $65 each. I suggest the library or an inter-library transfer. I have seen the book, believe I own it, but also think I must have it in storage somewhere. I do not remember how much Larios family history it contains. Peter Frusetta told the 1997 Larios family reunion that Theodore Larios taught him to ride and work cattle. 

There is need for more research about Jose Maria Larios, who was Manuel Salvador's father.

At http://www.new-idria.org, the claim is made that he was born in 1838 in Spain. In the 1790 padron (census) of California, he was 27 years old. He married Julianna Linares in Santa Clara in 1790. The marriage record states he was from Zapotlan, which is in current day Guadalajara, Mexico.
Please let me know more specifically what information you would like to know. I have some other sources I can dig up about which you might not know. [Boyd de Larios ("de" added by my Scottish-Irish grandmother) (member), South San Francisco, Calif.]

Pregunta 466 - 27 October 2007

My fourth great (I think) grandfather is Andres Duarte.  I have heard mention of one of my great(s) grandmother was a Gabrieleño Indian named Arelia (I believe), and she is buried at the San Gabriel mission with a plaque honoring her. Have you heard of her and how exactly is the connection between her and our grandfather Andres?  If this helps - my great aunt, who has passed in recent years, was Vicki Cordova. She was very involved with the city of Duarte. As a matter of fact, I used to be in parades with her honoring our family.  Now that I have a daughter of my own I would like to share in more detail who we are and where we came from. So if you have any info, please respond.
Sincerely, [Kari Hunter (nonmember), Ridgecrest, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 466 - 27 October 2007

According to Marie Northrop's Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California: 1769-1850, Vol. I, pp. 68, 71, 72:
Andres Avelino Duarte was the 7th child and 5th son of Jose Francisco Leandro Duarte [born about 1770 Barroveca, Durango, Sonora, Mexico of Joaquin Duarte and Maria Guillen; buried 28 May 1832 Los Angeles Plaza Church] and Maria Francisca Briones [born about 1775 Loreto, Baja California, Mexico of Jose Antonio Briones and Maria Gertrudis Higuera; buried 28 May 1832 Los Angeles Plaza Church]  who were married about 1782 in Loreto. Andres was baptized 30 November 1805 and was buried 24 January 1863 at Mission San Gabriel Cemetery. He was the grantee of Rancho Azusa (7,000 acres) on 10 May 1841 by Governor Juan B. Alvarado. In 1846 he was granted a San Gabriel lot. The city of Duarte retains his name. He was married about 1827 to Maria Gertrudis Florentina Valenzuela [baptized 16 October Mission San Diego; parents Jose Miguel Valenzuela and Maria Visitacion Rodriguez; died about 1906 at San Gabriel]. They had a son, Felipe Santiago Duarte [born 30 April 1828; baptized 1 May 1828 at San Diego Presidio; buried 27 January 1863 Mission San Gabriel] who married first Maria de Jesus Alvina Lopez and secondly, 28 July 1860 at Mission San Gabriel, Ysabel Yorba . [Benita Gray (member), San Diego, Calif.]

Pregunta 465 - 29 September 2007

My name is Celeste Valverde and I am directly descended from Eulalia Perez de Guillen Marine and Michael C. White on my mother's side of the family. Okay, now it is time to connect the dots: My mother's name is Esther Esperanza Cota Valverde; her mother's name was Ofelia Margaret Castillon Cota; her mother's name was Esther White Castillon; her mother's name was Maria del Rosario Guillen White; and her mother's name was Eulalia Perez de Guillen Marine. My question is how do I find the documents showing my descent? I have proof of connection to Esther White Castillon, but beyond that I don't. Could someone please answer my question through e-mail - seekingbastet@yahoo.com? It would be greatly appreciated. [Celeste Valverde (nonmember), Chula Vista, Calif.]

Pregunta 464 - 22 September 2007

I am looking for any birth information for Juventino Flores.  He married Raquela Reyes,  a direct descendent of Ricardo Vejar and Guillermo Soto, sometime around 1900 in Los Angeles County.  Guillermo Soto was part of the Rivera party to Alta California in 1781.  They arrived at Mission San Gabriel on 18 August 1781. [Christopher Price (nonmember), Santa Barbara, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 464 - 20 February 2008

Raquela Reyes and Juventino Julian Flores: there is more information on them in Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California, Vol. III, page 384. There is information on his birth and death, but nothing on his parents. I have extensive information on the Reyes family. reyest@lanecc.edu [Tina Reyes (related to member), Eugene, Ore.]

Pregunta 463 - 22 September 2007

Could anyone help me with Jesus Demesio Romero who married Maria Rosa Ruiz, daughter of Hilario Ruiz and Juliana Sinoba.   Please email me at johnalbitre@sbcglobal.net and forward a copy of the email to Los Californianos for others who have questions.   Thanks, [John Albitre (member), Bakersfield, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 463 - 20 February 2008

Also check page 285, Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California, Vol. III, by Marie Northrop. It has some information. This is also one of our lines to the Reyes side [see Respuesta a Pregunta 464]. reyest@lanecc.edu [Tina Reyes (related to member), Eugene, Ore.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 463 - 22 September 2007

According to Marie Northrop's Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California: 1769-1850, vol. II, pp. 248-249: Jose Demesio (Nemesio) Romero [baptized 19 December 1826, Mission Santa Barbara] was the eldest child of Tomas de la Trinidad Romero [born 21 December 1802; baptized 24 December 1802, Mission Santa Barbara; parents Jose Antonio Romero and Maria Dorotea Alanis] and Maria Felipa Lugo [born 23 August 1807; baptized 24 August 1807; parents Jose Miguel Lugo and Maria Isabel Fernandez]. Tomas and Maria Felipa were married 5 February1826 at Mission Santa Barbara. Jose Demesio married Maria Rosa Ruiz 27 November 1849 at Mission Santa Barbara. p 242: Tomas de la Trinidad Romero was the eldest child of Jose Antonio Romero [born about 1776-9 at Loreto, Baja California of Juan Maria Romero and Maria Lugarda Salgado; died 28 March 1849; buried 30 March 1849 at Mission Santa Barbara] and Maria Dolores Dorotea Alanis [baptized 11 February 1787, Mission San Juan Capistrano; parents Maximo Alanis and Juana Alvarez]. Jose Antonio and Maria Dolores were married 4 August 1801 at Mission San Gabriel.

Pregunta 462 - 10 September 2007

What  is the connection between Maria S. de Valenzuela and Muriel Foxen, granddaughter  of
Benjamin Foxen? Looking for descendants. Have photos, etc. [Judy Brady (nonmember), Los Angeles, Calif.]

Pregunta 461 - 10 September 2007

I'm looking for information relating to the Hernandez family of Rancho Rincanada de Los Gatos.  More specific, Francisco Xavier Hernandez, who was the last child born in the rancho.  His father, Jose Hernandez, was co-grantee of the rancho with Sebastian Peralta.  I do know that the two men married Cibrian sisters.  I believe that Francisco was my great-grandmother's father.  Might have been her grandfather.  Either way I am trying to gather the information as I was once a member of Los Californianos and am trying to re-join but, need the information. I once had all kinds of information concerning my family but lost it all years ago.  I truly appreciate any and all help that you can give to me. [Eric Donelly (not yet reinstated member), Pocatello, Idaho]
 

Respuesta a Pregunta 461 - 12 July 2008

Your father's great grandmother must be either Gertrude A. Hill or Mercedes K. Boyd who are the two
daughters of Francsico Xavier Hernandez with his 2nd wife Delphina. Gertrude A. Hernandez was born 23 July 1886.
Mercedes K. Hernandez was born 14 June 1889. Their mother, Delphina Hernandez's, maiden name is Weingarden. (San Jose Mercury Historical Archive) You can get birth certificates from Santa Clara County Office of Clerk-Recorder which requires Infant 's first, middle and last name; Date of Birth; and Mother's maiden name.

Francisco Xavier was baptized at Santa Clara Mission on 13 December 1849.   He was 40 days old at that point
putting his birth date as 3 November1849. His baptismal record number is SCL 10959. His parents are Jose
Maria Hernandez and Maria Gertrudis Ciprian.  Francisco was baptized as Francisco Xavier but I found information on him as just Francisco or Francisco X. or Frank Xavier or Frank X. or F. X. or just F. Hernandez.  There is a lot of little information on  the Frank X. Hernandez family in the San Jose Mercury Historical Archive.  They were socially prominent in San Jose and widely known.

Jose Hernandez and Gertrudis Ciprian were married at Santa Clara Mission on 26 November 1830.  The marriage
record number is SCL 02444. Maria Gertrudis Ynes Ciprian was baptized at Santa Clara Mission on 8 August 1810.  She was 4 days old putting her birth date as 4 August 1810.  Her baptismal record number is SCL 05715X.  Her parents are
Leocadio Ciprian and Petra Maria Archuleta and they had 14 children. Jose Maria Hernandez was baptized on 30 September 1802.  He was 2 days old putting his birth date as 28 September 1802.   His baptismal record number is SCL 04373.   His father is unknown ("no conocido") and his mother is Serafina Hernandez of whom there is no information.   

There were other Hernandez's in San Jose and the rest of California in 1802 but none of the Mission system records connect them to Jose Maria.   Jose Maria's mother Serafina is a mystery. You can see Mission document information for free online on the Huntington Californio database.  You can request a printed copy of Santa Clara Mission documents from the Santa Clara University Archive for a fee.

Francisco and Delphina are buried at Oak Hill Cemetery in San Jose.   Frank died 27 February 1901 and Delphina died 1 June 1905.   (SJ Merc Hist Arch) Gertrudis died some time after Francisco was born in 1849 and before the special California census in 1852.   She is most likely buried in the Santa Clara Mission cemetery in Santa Clara.   There may be more definite death and burial information in the Hernandez paper folder at the Santa Clara City Library Heritage Pavilion.   I may have seen it.  I remember reading something that said she died in childbirth. Jose Maria died some time after the US census [in the Concord area of Contra Costa county where he was living] was taken on 9 August 1870 and before his widow Expectacion Hernandez married Louis Hamlin in San Francisco as reported by the Contra Costa Gazette on 12 June 1875.  I have no death date and burial site at this time.

There is one photograph of Jose Maria shown with a son taken possibly in the 1850s but he remains an enigma. 
http://www.community-newspapers.com/archives/lgwt/20040303/index.html 

I hope you find this useful. Best regards, Ken Cusenza - great grandson of Emilio Hernandez, half brother of Francisco Xavier
Hernandez and son of Jose Maria Hernadez. [Ken Cusenza (nonmember), Sacramento, Calif.]
 

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