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Pregunta 590 - 2 February 2010

Does anyone have information regarding Josefa parvula, baptism #124 of the Plaza Church de Los Angeles on 15 May 1828? There is no reference in the baptism record to Josefa’s mother, while the father is stated to be gentiles Chapo of the Rancheria Coppa.   In addition, why would there be so much information in the baptism for the father and NONE regarding the mother?  There must be an explanation for this practice.  There is another example of the practice in baptism #109, Gertrudis parvula, the sister of Josefa.  Again, in the baptism record there is plenty of information for the father, but no mention whatsoever of the mother.  Does someone have an explanation for this practice or why there is no mention of the mother? [Rick Waldau (nonmember), Huntington Beach, Calif.]

Pregunta 589 - 6 January 2010

Looking for any information on Manuel Boronda (arrived in Monterey Calif., 1769), Manuel Boronda jr. 1803, Juana Cota, Jose de los Santos Boronda (1842 to 1925), Rosario Castro. [Rick Harris (nonmember), King City, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 589 - 6 January 2010

I do not find José Manuel Boronda listed among those who arrived in and explored Alta California in 1769. However, Building and Builders in Hispanic California: 1769-1850 by Mardith K. Schuetz-Miller had many references to him, including almost 2 pages of biography (pp. 59-60). He is identified as a Spaniard from Xéres, Bishopric of Guadalajara Jalisco, born about 1750, died 1826. His name first appears in Alta California on 31 December 1785 in a list of employees of the Department of San Blas attached to Santa Barbara wherein he was described as age 35 and a bachelor.

According to Marie Northrop's Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California: 1769-1850, Vol. II, pp. 27-28: José Manual Boronda was a corporal, carpenter, and teacher at San Francisco and Monterey 1790-1818. The school at Monterey was called Tularcitos. Manuel built the first adobe casa outside the  presidio walls about 1817. His marriage and the vitals of his 14 children are listed. Jose Manuel Boronda, the son, is covered on pp. 29-31 in the same manner. He was juez de camp in 1836 at Rancho Las Salinas and grantee of Los Laurels in 1839. His wife, Juana Maria Inocencia Cota, is listed on p. 29 and her family lineage is covered in Vol. I, pp. 115-18.   Jose de los Santos Boronda is listed on p. 30, as is Rosario Castro, his wife.

The information on these individuals is too extensive for me to include it all here, but you should be able to borrow these books on interlibrary loan through your local library. They are also available to the public for a modest fee in the Traveling Genealogy Library at all the Los Californianos Meetings. Our meetings are detailed on this Web site under Meetings. It is likely that you would find other information about your family lines in the library as we have a fairly large genealogical collection. [Benita H. Gray (member), San Diego, Calif.]

Pregunta 588 - 5 January 2010

I am looking for any information about Juan de Arce who is believed to have been an Englishman with a Spanish name and Capt. Francisco de Pereda y Arce who sailed with Padre Keno in 1683. Possible both may have been in the Sinaloa, Mexico (New Spain) area around the same time 1670 - 1700.

My research shows a Juan de Arce who was with the Guzman expedition circa 1530 possibly settled in the Sinaloa area and another Juan de Arce who served in presidios in Sinaloa 1698. Capt. Francisco de Pereda y Arce sailed out of Sinaloa in 1683 but do not know if he was originally from the area. Any information would be appreciated. [Robert Arce (nonmember), Flower Mound, Texas]

Respuesta a Pregunta 588 - 5 January 2010

Jose Gabriel de Arce [my ancestor], who was a soldado de cuera with the Portolá Expedition, was the son of a Francisco Pereda y Arce and Rosa Lopez. Gabriel was born in the Villa de Sinaloa, Sinaloa about 1727. Unfortunately, it is my understanding that the old records of the Villa de Sinaloa have been lost. [Benita H. Gray (member), San Diego, Calif.]

Pregunta 587 - 5 January 2010

I am asking about my great grandfather. There are so many questions that some of us have. We would like to know about our history. Records of my great grandfather Seferino Valderamos and his sister Francisca Valderamos show they were placed in orphanages in the 1850s. They may have Chumash ancestors. He was born in 1845 in San Luis Obispo died in Phoenix, Ariz. in 1954. [Sylvia Sanchez (nonmember), Alhambra, Calif.]

Pregunta 586 - 5 January 2010

t is exciting to find out that I am a direct descendant of 4 well known California families: John Cameron Gilroy and  Clara Maria Ortega, Thomas W Doak and Lucarda Maria Castro. Jose Neofito, John Cameron Gilroy's son, married Cecelia Doak. Their son Theodore Gilroy is my great grandfather. His daughter Cecelia Isabella Gilroy is my grandmother, her daughter, Emma Edith Dant,is my mother (all are deceased)  Thanks to a Kathy Earshaw and Ancestry.com, I have much information. However, I would like advice on how to obtain more information on: 1. The Doaks and 2. Theodore Gilroy's first wife Refugia Gonzales from Mexico. Thanks for your wonderful organization!  marieterranova@hotmail.com  Gilroy/Ortega/Castro Family Tree on ancestry.com  [Marie Terranova (nonmember), Westerly, R.I.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 586 - 5 January 2010

According to Marie Northrop's Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California: 1769-1850, Vol. II, pp. 51-52:
Maria Lugarda de las Nieves Castro [born 18 May 1801; baptized 20 May 1801 at Mission San Carlos de Monterey; married 8 November 1820 at Mission San Juan Bautista to Thomas Doak] was the 5th child (3rd daughter) of Jose Mariano Castro [born about 1765 at Sinaloa, Sonora, Nueva Espana (now Mexico); died 1828] and Maria Josefa Romero [born about 1777 at Loreto, Baja California, Nueva España (now Mexico) of Juan Maria Romero and Maria Lugarda Salgado] who were married 19 February 1791 at Mission Santa Barbara, Alta California, Nueva España (now California) Mariano's parents were Joachim Isidro Castro and Maria Martina Botiller. Mariano was a soldado de cuera with Anza in 1776 and at the Royal Presidio of Monterey; he was grantee of Rancho Las Animas and La Brea. [I am including this information because Ms. Terranova's first (short) query to La Tejedora asked about Mariano. In addition, Maria Lugarda's name is cited somewhat differently than Ms. Terranova has. La Tejedora]

Pregunta 585 - 5 January 2010

Hello, I am currently doing some genealogy and need some help. How is General Castro uncle of Maria Antonio Castro?

She is my great great great grandmother who married Juan Anzar. And they had  Policronio Estolastico de Guadalupe
Anzar
, who  married a Mariquita Zanetta, and they had Frank Anzar. Frank  married a Violet Hunt and they  had my grandmother Lolita Anzar. She married a William Vincent Lizotte and they had my mom.

So my question is, how is General Castro related to Maria Antonio Castro? and were they Spanish or Mexican? Please help??!! [Aaron (nonmember), Roseville, Calif.]

Pregunta 584 - 26 December 2009

We are researching families that lived in the Livermore-Amador Valley before 1900. One of those families descended from James Bagley [born 1831 Ireland, died 1861 San Jose] and Maria Elena Aranzazu Mesa [born 1840 Alviso, died after 1920].  We are very interested in learning more about James Bagley and exactly where he lived [believed to be in what is now Milpitas], and where he is buried. Also very interested in when and where Maria died and where she is buried. Very willing to share information we have. [Richard Finn (nonmember), Livermore, Calif.]

Pregunta 583 - 22 November 2009

Who were the mother and father of Maria Ortega y Pacheco?  Maria married Guillermo West, son of Mark West, in Sonoma County.  Maria claimed to be a descendant of Jose Francisco Ortega of the Portolá Expedition.  I am trying to determine her mother and father.  She may have come from Contra Costa County, but was a resident of Sonoma County when she married Guillermo in 1875.  Maria was probably born around 1849. [Carol Eber (provisional member), Petaluma, Calif.]

Pregunta 582 - 22 November 2009

I'm trying to make my daughter proud of her background - something her mother's side of the family does not seem to like to talk about.

I am told she goes back to Don
Jose Marie Amador - I hear that he was a sergeant at the Presidio in Monterey and later at the Presidio in San Francisco. I also heard that his wife was the first school teacher in California and that their son was part of the founding of Mission San Jose.  When he retired the Spanish king gave him 17,000± acres in what is now the Amador Valley. Amador County is named after him.  Family stories say that he let Irish settle on his land and that is now Dublin, Calif.

The story goes that some gringos bought 100± horses from him.  They then came back to say they needed a receipt in English for the Army.  He did not speak English but signed it anyway.  The receipt was NOT for horses but for his land.  He lost his fight in American courts.

His was buried behind the Catholic Church in Gilroy, Calif. by my daughter's great grandma, who was born in the Castro House. [Dennis Gothot (nonmember), San Martin, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 582 - 14 March 2010

Pedro Amador was my great great great great grandfather. Does anyone know who his parents were, if they were from Spain and if so what part of Spain? [Warren Brunetti (nonmember), Alameda, Calif.]

Respuesta a Pregunta 582 - 5 January 2010

Our family which is Amador also come from the same part of Mexico by Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico. There is a big Amador family in that area. My dad's father was from La Mesa del Cobre, Jalisco. His father was Serafin Amador and they had a big family in that whole area of Amador name. [Librado Amador (nonmember), Sunnyvale, Calif.]
 

Respuesta a Pregunta 582 - 22 November 2009

According to Marie Northrop's Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California: 1769-1850, Vol. I, pp. 31-33:
Jose Maria Amador was born 18 December 1794 and baptized 20 December at Mission Dolores. His parents were Pedro Amador [born about 1739 Cocula, Guadalajara, Mexico] and Maria Ramona Noriega [born about 1760 Baja California, Mexico; buried 3 September 1802 Mission Santa Clara]. Pedro and Ramona were married in 1777 Baja California. She was his second wife and of "some attainments for her circumstances and time, as she taught all of her eleven children to read and write." Pedro enlisted in August 1765 at Loreto and rose to the rank of sergeant. He was with Portola's Expedition to Alta California  in 1769.

Jose Maria Amador married (1) May 1818 Maria Magdalena de la Trinidad Bernal, who died in 1828 in childbirth; they had three children who lived into adulthood and were married. He married (2) 1 May 1829 Josefa Joaquina Rogeria Sanchez, who died in 1838; they had five children, at least one of whom married. He married (3) 13 January 1844 Maria Soledad Alviso; they had 5 children. Northrop has more details of his wives and children; although, she does not mention any being a teacher.

Jose Maria Amador was a soldier at the San Francisco Presidio from 1810-27. He was Mayordomo of Mission Santa Clara in 1827. He was granted Rancho San Ramon in 1834 and left valuable memoirs. Amador County was named for him.

Harry Crosby's Gateway to Alta California: The Expedition to San Diego, 1769, p. 144 details Pedro Amador's military service. If the military records show he was in the Spanish Army in Arizona or Alta California during the American Revolution, his male descendants may very well qualify for membership in the Sons of the American Revolution.

As a Californio descendant myself, I take pride in my ancestors' accomplishments and hope your daughter will do the same. [Benita Gray (member), San Diego, Calif.]

Pregunta 581 - 6 November 2009

Looking for any information on the ancestors of Jose Dario Arguello [born about 1753 at Queretaro, Mexico; died about 1827-8 at Guadalajara, Jalisco Mexico].  Also is he related to Juan de Arguello who joined Cortes' Mexican expedition from Nicaragua? My husband's father was Donald L Arguello [born1896 in Santa Clara, Calif.]. Thank you, [Carol Field (nonmember), Sydney, Australia]



 

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