My daughter is doing a family research project for school and I'm having
trouble figuring out our family history. My grandmother's maiden name is
Florence Josephine Castro,
her married name
Olga Anderson.
She was born in San Francisco in 1909. Her parents names were
Jose
or
Joseph Castro
and
Otilia Nunez.
I think
Otilia
was born in Guatemala and met her husband in San Francisco in 1907. She had a
sister
Doris
(1911-2003) who never married and had no children. I am looking at pictures to
try and figure out a link to
Jose Castro
(born 1880 in San Luis Obispo, Calif.). I remember my grandmother saying she
was one of his descendents. His father,
Jose Castro,
was born 1845 in California.
Joseph Castro,
my great grandfather, is labeled in an undated picture with his younger
brother, "Eddie",
and younger sisters,
Mollie
and
Lenna.
Another childhood picture is labeled San Luis Obispo. My grandmother's
mother's parents names were
Augustine
and
Conchaquinto? Nunez.
My grandmother passed away 30 April 2000 in Spokane, Washington. Any help
confirming my links to
Jose Castro
of San Luis Obispo and his father and/or figuring out our family heritage is
appreciated. Thank you, [Kim Haney (nonmember), Spokane, Wash.]
Pregunta 647 - 19 December 2010
I am a descendant of
Jose Jacinto Maria Lorenzana,
one of the
Lorenzana orphans
of 1800. I understand he was at Casa de Cuna in Mexico City prior to his
departure from Mexico at age 10. As he was Indian, I'm interested in knowing
his birth name, his group or tribe, and where it was in Mexico he came from.
Any information or suggestions on how I can acquire this information would be
greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and consideration. [Timothy Jones
(nonmember), Quincy, Calif.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 647 - 19 December 2010
Since most or all the orphans were gathered up from the streets back in
the 1790s, it is almost impossible to trace their lineage. Most infants
were the result of Spanish soldiers mingling with the native women who
probably belonged to an array of Indian tribes in the region. Some were
the result of Indians with Indians and the ones labeled Mestizo
are the result of offspring of Spanish and Indian mix and male or female
and Indian women. It gets real complicated after a few generations of
these mixtures. As you know, most of the natives in the region at the
time Herndo Cortez arrived in the 1520s were Aztec plus what ever other
natives they had for slaves when they conquered tribes of the
surrounding area. Casa de Cuna is a name for an orphanage as used back
then, and orfanato is used today to describe an orphanage. I do
have a list of the orphans and the families of Gente de Razon
they were assigned to in 1805, as well as who they married. For further
information, please call me at (559) 299-5830 or send me an e-mail to
jandeloren@att.net {John Lorenzana (member), Clovis, Calif.]
Pregunta 646 - 7 December 2010
Looking for information that may link Angela de
Leon
(who wed Andres de
Cota)
and Agustina de
Leon
(who wed Manuel
Romero......
are they sisters? cousins ,aunt and niece, or related at all? They do have
descendents in common, including me.
Angela de Leon
was mother of both Don
Pablo Antonio Cota
and his older brother
Jacinto Cota y de Leon.
Jacinto,
according to Los Californianos information, was born about 1720;
Pablo about 1740.
Pablo was buried
at Santa Barbara 31 December 1800. He had been the alcalde there.
Pablo's wife was
Rosa Maria Lugo.
There has always been a story that my grandmother's mother's, mother's
parents were 3rd cousins. They are 2nd cousins through the 2
Cota brothers,
but if
Angela was the
sister of the
Augustina de Leon who wed
Manuel Romero and was mother of
Felipe Romero
who wed
Juana Linon -- that would explain/back up the family
story.
On another subject a short time ago I had a DNA test done to determine my
mitochondrial DNA, I knew it would be one of 3 options, and it did come up
Native American , but what tribe? What can I do to find out which tribe ?
The ancestors are
Maria Lugarda Salgado
and her mother, Lucia Alipas,
who wed a Spanish soldier of Portuguese descent named
Francisco Salgado.
He had a brother who was a Jesuit missionary.
Maria Lugarda
married
Juan Romero and
they were the parents of
Maria Gertrudis Romero,
who was born about 1779 at Loreto and wed
Manuel Antonio Cota y de Leon,
born 23 January 1779 at Mission San Antonio de Padua.
Manuel was the
son of
Pablo Antonio Cota y de Leon
and
Rosa Lugo.
[Mary Ryan (member) San Francisco, Calif.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 646 - 27 January 2012
MARIA LUGARDA SALGADO
married
Juan Romero. Felipe Romero is in my family tree.
To know the tribe write to me at
mlopez569@hotmail.com [Mark
(nonmember), Oceano, Calif.]
Mark: could you
let the rest of us know the tribe, too? La Tejedora
Respuesta a Pregunta 646 - 12 March 2011
In his wonderful book on the Jesuits, Antigua California, Harry
Crosby states that
Francisco
Javier Salgado was a soldier at Loreto and at the northern
Jesuit missions. Therefore, if he married in Baja California, his wife,
Lucía Alipaz, could have been a Cochimi Indian.
Lugarda's husband,
Juan María Romero,
is described as a mestizo from Sonora, so some of his forebears were probably
Yaqui or Seri Indians. Many Yaquis came to the peninsula over the years.
Francisco Javier's
wife could have come from these groups, too.
Also, Crosby does not mention a Jesuit Padre
Salgado. [Rondi
Frankel (nonmember), Mexico City, Mexico]
Pregunta 645 - 6 December 2010
I am a teacher and looking for information about the descendants of
Patricio Castro,
Isabella Castro and
Jose Castro. They
are all the children of
Victor Ramon Castro
(born) 1817. I believe they all had land in El Sobrante near San Pablo Dam
Road and Castro Ranch Road.
Isabella and
Patricio both
married brother sisters in the
Fitzgerald
family. I'm not sure who
Jose Castro
married. I see all three of them on a land map of the late 1880s. I have
Belle Castro in
Hercules, Calif in 1930 and
Patrick Castro in
Richmond, Calif. in 1930. I heard
Patricio (Patrick Castro)
had grandsons who were famous rodeo riders. Any information would
be appreciated. Thank you. [Joanne Rubio (nonmember), El Sobrante, Calif.]
Pregunta 644 - 23 November 2010
Hello. In doing my genealogy I've discovered my family and I are
descendents of
Andres de Cota and
Martin Olivera Reyes,
Francisco Salvador de Lugo,
Juana Maria Rita Martinez,
Josef Vicente Feliz,
Maria Manuela Ygnacia Penuelas,
Pablo Antonio Cota,
Angela de Leon,
Ygnacio Narciso Olivera,
the list goes on. In researching my family I find these families were part of
the Rivera Moncada Expedition. I am looking for
Clemente Villa who
married
Vibiana Torrez on
12 April 1885 in Santa Margarita, Calif. She was the daughter of
Maria Guadalupe Lucina de Refugio Olivera and
Jose Vibiano Torrez. I know they were married on 11 January
1858 at the Santa Barbara Mission.
Vibiana Torrez was
suppose to have been born 28 April 1866 in San Salvador de Jurupa. Can someone
tell me where this was? Can anyone tell me how to trace
Clemente --
they have his birthday as 1854 in Southern California or Mexico? My mother
seemed to think that he was born in Santa Rita Beach, Mexico. Most of my
mother's family has past and no one seems to know who his parents were. I
thought perhaps he was a descendant of
Juan Jose Villa of the Rivera Expedition. [Debbie Maysey
(not yet member), Atascadero, Calif.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 644 - 6 April 2011
Ms. Maysey,
Maria Viviana de Jesus Torres
was born 22 April 1866, likely in Agua Mansa on the Santa Ana River, now part
of Colton, California. She was baptized on 02 May 1866 at the San Salvador de
Jurupa chapel there. The original record can be found in the 1st book of
baptisms for San Salvador de Jurupa, currently in the archives of the San
Bernardino Catholic Diocese. San Salvador de Jurupa was a community on both
sides of the Santa Ana River where now the San Bernardino and Riverside county
lines now intersect. It was begun about 1844 primarily by emigrants from New
Mexico. Agua Mansa was the part on the northwest bank of the Santa Ana River
and La Placita (La Placita de los Trujillos) was on the southeast bank (part
of which is now in the city of Riverside).
Viviana was one of
nine known children of
Jose Viviemo Torres
(aka "Vibiano"
or "Vivian"
Torres) &
Juana Maria Guadalupe Olivera.
The couple was indeed married on the date you cite, but at Mission San Luis
Obispo, not Mission Santa Barbara. The fact that 3 of their 9 children were
born and baptized in San Salvador de Jurupa implies
Viviemo and/or
Juana had family
there.
Juana Maria Guadalupe Olivera
was born or baptized on 12 December 1846 at Mission La Purisima near Lompoc,
California. She was a daughter of
Juan Guadalupe Lucio Olivera
&
Augustina Calderon.
Viviemo Torres was
born somewhere in New Mexico about 1832. He may have come to California with
a sheep drive in the mid-1850s; but I've not found him in San Salvador de
Jurupa records before the early 1860s. He likely arrived in San Luis Obispo
county about 1858. I believe he can be found at San Simeon in the 1860
census. (He may or may not be a relation of my own
Torres ancestors
from the Pozo area.)
Viviemo was a
foreman on Santa Margarita Ranch until he was shot and died in 1880.
As for
Clemente Villa, he
is likely a "Villavicencio",
possibly of the Baja California
Villavicencios,
which would match your mother's recollection. The 1900 census gives his birth
date as "May 1860" in Mexico, but it was likely actually ten years earlier, in
1850. That same census says he emigrated here in 1879. [Alexander King
(member), Los Angeles, Calif.]
NOTE: The two queries below mention previous
postings. If that information is important, please give the 3 digit Pregunta
number (the next two numbers are the day it was posted). It is very time
consuming for me to attempt to locate a particular query without the number. La Tejedora
Pregunta 643 - 16 November 2010
Pregunta (almost the same as a previous person has posted):
My great grandmother,
Concepcion de Ruiz, was born in early Los Angeles in 1845.
She died in Los Angeles in 1938. She married
George Washington Rowe
(deceased approx 17 February 1905) in 1870 in the Old Plaza Church. I am
trying to locate who her parents were and any information regarding her family
(especially her parents), her life (early) and or the
Rowe's
(particularly in this time period....early California). A previous posting
on your sight stated, in a question, that she was Castilian Spanish and her
parents came here on a land grant from Spain. Please help! Muchas gracias de
antemano! [Craig Rowe (nonmember), La Verne, Calif.]
Respuesta a Pregunta 643 - 20 February 2011
I found one piece of information for your
Conception Ruiz.
From the Temple transcripts of the Mission Records I found the entry at the LA
Plaza Church for their marriage:
1085) Jul 4, 1870 -
George Rowe, 33,
native of Canada, of
John &
Alma Rand, with
Concepcion Ruiz,
25, vda. de
Charles Hosker,
of
Anselmo (Ruiz) y
Ma. Jesus Acebedo
de L.A. Manuel Brunetti, y su muger Susana Ybarra, wits.
That at least gives parent's names, including mother's maiden names. You
could probably request certificates of death from the state for both
George and
Concepcion, which
will have more information. Good luck, [Valerie Hall (member), Sacramento,
Calif.]
Pregunta 642 - 16 November 2010
I have been trying to sort out errors in my family history. I have read on
a previous post that the
Jose de Jesus Lopez cited in Spanish-Mexican Families of
Early California by Marie Northrop is not the right
Jose de Jesus Lopez,
and other references were also cited as incorrect. Who is the right
Jose de Jesus?
This obviously makes the ancestor lines based on this error wrong. Can anyone
please help?
Please post or email me directly, either way.
californiana@att.net Thank you,
[Linda Mead Smith (member), Lawndale, Calif.]
Note: if you email Linda directly,
please ccLaTejedora@loscalifornianos.orgso I can share the information
with others that may be interested. La Tejedora
Respuesta a Pregunta 642 - 20 November 2010
Marie Northrop: Spanish-Mexican Families of Early California –
Errors Regarding Jose de Jesus Lopez.
Vol. III, page 377:
“52.
Jose de Jesus Lopez,
son of
Cornelio Maria Lopez
and
Maria Rafaela Laureana Romero,
was baptized 19 March 1817 at Mission San Gabriel.
1 He was married 25 February 1844 at
Mission San Gabriel 2 to
Maria Marcela Bojorquez
. She was born 22 February 1825 in San Jose and baptized 25
February 1825 at Mission Santa Clara, daughter of
Bartolome Francisco Bojorquez
and
Maria Nicolasa Linares.
Lopez died in 1854
in Sonoma.
Maria Marcela was
married (2) 20 January 1850 3 in
Los Angeles to
John (Juan) Slert;
she died 14 June 1896 in Santa Monica.
Children of J.J. Lopez and M.M. Bojorquez:
127 i.
Quirino Lopez,
baptized 13 June 1843 Mission Solano. 4
+128 ii.
Jose Silvestre Lopez
born 1847.
iii.
Maria Andrea Lopez,
born 2 June 1848 Mission Solano; married 12 October
1868 Los Angeles Plaza Church to
Joseph Laventhal
(of Prussia).
129 iv.
Maria Rafaela de Jesus Lopez,
baptized 3 January 1850 Mission Solano.
130 v.
Guadalupe Lopez,
baptized 1851 Mission Solano.
132 vi.
Jose de Petra Lopez,
born Sonoma Co.
133 vii.
Sebastian Lopez,
134 viii.
Margurita Lopez, baptized 25 February 1855 L.A. Plaza
Church, de 3 dias; married
7 January 1873 L.A. Plaza Church to
Manuel Dominguez
(age 23, born
Santa Barbara, son of
Domingo Dominguez
&
Francisca Varelas)."
1 This baptism date is for
Josef de Jesus Lopez,
son of
Ygnacio Maria de Jesus Lopez
and
Maria Timotea Villalobos.
This
Josef de Jesus Lopez
was born on 16 March 1817 and baptized n 22 March 1817 at Mission San Diego,
baptism entry #63. I have found NO other records for this person. The correct
Jose de Jesus Lopez
was born in 1820 (verified by military enlistment records). The Mission San
Gabriel baptism records #6295, 11 April 1819 through #6559, 1 December 1820
are lost. His baptism would have occurred during this period. 2 The marriage reference and date
of 25 February 1844 for
Jose de Jesus Lopez
and
Maria Marcela Bojorquez
are incorrect. They were married 25 October 1844 at Mission San Rafael
Archangel, marriage entry #561. 3 The reference to the marriage of
Maria Marcela Bojorquez
and
John Slert is incorrect. They were married on 20 January
1856. In 1850,
Jose de Jesus Lopez was still living, and married to
Maria Marcela Bojorquez. 4
Quirino Lopez is
incorrect.
Quirino was the
illegitimate son of
Maria Marcela Bojorquez.
He was baptized at Mission San Francisco de Solano, Baptism record #1520 by Fr
Jose Lorenzo Quijas. Fr Quijas neglected to record the actual date of the
baptism, nor the child’s surname. There is no entry for
Quirino’s surname,
nor is there any reference to his father. He is recorded as natural
(illegitimate). He appears to have been baptized between 1841-1842. He is
not the son of
Jose de Jesus Lopez
and did not live in the
Lopez household.
He was raised by his grand-parents,
Bartolome Francisco Bojorquez
and
Maria Nicolasa Linares.
He appears on the 1860 census as
Vicente Bojorquez.
CORRECTION -
7 December 2010:
Mea culpa: I stated that in the 1860 census,
Quirino Bojorques
was listed as
Vicente Bojorquez.
This is incorrect. He was listed as
Vetro Bojorques.
I am sorry for any inconvenience. [Franklin G. Mead (member), Rio Linda,
Calif.]
Vol. I, page 207, Children of
Ygnacio Maria de Jesus Lopez:
“9.
Josef de Jesus Lopez
Baptized 22 March 1817 at Mission San Diego
Married To
Maria Marcela Bojorquez5.”
5 He was not married to
Maria Marcela Bojorquez.
Vol. I, pages 79 & 80:
“9.
Maria Marcela Bojorquez
Born 22 February 1825; baptized 25 February 1825 at Mission Santa Clara
Married (1) 25 October 1844 at Mission San Rafael
6 to
Jose de Jesus Lopez
(2) 20 January 18506 at Los
Angeles Plaza Church to
John Slert of
Germany.”
6 Here, Marie Northrop is correct
in the marriage of
Jose de Jesus Lopez
and
Maria Marcela Bojorquez,
but is in error with the marriage date of
John Slert and
Maria Marcela Bojorquez.
The marriage was in 1856.
Vol. II, Page 142:
“Jose
de Jesus Lopez [son of
Cornelio Maria Lopez
and
Maria Rafaela Laureana Romero]
born about 1820 at San Gabriel 7.
Buried 27 December 1827 (child) 8.”
7 Here, Marie Northrop is correct in the birth date of
Jose de Jesus Lopez,
but is in error in the death information. Marie Northrop has confused him
with his brother.
Jose de Jesus Lopez
died in Sonoma in 1854. Sonoma City, County and newspaper did not start
keeping/reporting death records until 1855.
8
Jose Ygnacio de Jesus Lopez, brother of
Jose de Jesus Lopez was born 19 November 1825 and baptized on 21 November 1825 at Mission San
Gabriel, baptism entry #7365. He was buried on 27 December 1827 at Mission
San Gabriel, burial entry #5269.
This information substantiates the
Jose de Jesus
error. For additional lineage information, see the Los Californianos
Correction page on their Web-site Corrections.
Mutnick and others have also made this error.
I have additional information, and can be contacted at
Californiano@att.net [Franklin
G. Mead (member), Rio Linda, Calif.]
Pregunta 641 - 16 November 2010
Jose Antonio de los Nieves
was born almost as soon as the
Robles arrived at
Branciforte.
Eugenia came along
in 1800,
Rafael two years
later,
Raimundo in 1804
and
Antonio a year
later.
Teodoro,
Avelino,
Secundino,
Maria Guadalupe,
Nicolaus,
Fulgencio and
Estefana came in
rapid succession.
Jose Antonio de los Nieves
died in 1822, only a few months after he had taken as a bride
Petra Vasquez.
His son
Policarpio, was
born after
Jose Antonio’s death.
Rafael was also
known as
Jose Rafael Robles.
Because
Benito Robles was
born about 1827, I believe that
Jose Rafael Robles was his father, and not
Jose Antonio de los Nieves Robles. Does anyone have proof of
this? [Robert Stone (nonmember), Auburn, Calif.]
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